Tuesday, July 1, 2014

Top 10 Teams and Sleepers




It’s always tough to make a top 10 teams list going into an XC Season. 4-5 guys can develop, runners can get injured at any turn, but we need a base to start with, so let’s begin!

1. Malvern Prep (IND) – In my opinion Malvern Prep is easily the top team in the state going into next season. For the most part I agree with Etrain’s theory about the top 3 runners mattering the most, but as he pointed out, North Hills had 3 runners who finished top 13 in the region a few years ago, but they couldn’t make it out of WPIAL’s as a team. This being said, I love to know at least a top 4 group going into the next season. The 4th guy doesn’t need to be great, but I really like to know who it is at least. Let’s see who Malvern has: Jaxson Hoey (Jr-PA#5, NXNE #4), Billy McDevitt (Sr-PA#36, NXNE#19), Josh Hoey (Fr-NXNE #17), Colin Wills (Jr – NXNE #21), Ryan Doane. (The NXNE places are from team scoring)

Looking at the regional teams who are returning Malvern Prep seems like the easy choice at the #2 spot. CBA (NJ) is always topping off the field and the return NXNE #5 returner, Blaise Ferro, who just won a state title for the 3200m. They also return a strong 2-4 pack of runners who placed 14-16 last season at regions, but I think MP will provide quite the challenge. Josh Hoey seems to be a total XC stud as he is the 17th team scoring returning (19th overall) from last season. The younger is a stud. This team will be led by his older brother, Jaxson who should be able to pick up crucial low team points for them. I loved what we saw out of McDevitt and Wills this past season on the track as the both ran low 4:20 mile times. Those 4 runners up front give MP some flexibility with depth. Ryan Doane is their next returning runner, but he’s quite a bit behind the group. If he can make a jump or they can pick up one more guy they will challenge for a regional win. No questions asked they’re the best team in the state of Pennsylvania.

2. North Allegheny (7) – This is where the top 3 theory works quite nicely. They’ve got Matt Mcgoey (Sr- PA #13), Hunter Wharrey (Sr- PA #22), and Scott Seel (Sr – PA #43) up front. Sadly Seamus Love moved, or else this team would probably top Malvern Prep on this list. They’ve got 2 medalists locked in with Mcgoey and Wharrey, but Seel has always been very consistent and could grab one of the last few medal spots. If he doesn’t, he’ll be a mid-30’s man no question. Nobody else the PIAA has that on their side right now. They also have a very strong 4th man in Peter Savchik. Savchik just missed making the varsity team for states last season. In fact he was off by two seconds to Nicholas McClure. McClure scored 44 team points last season, and I’d say Savchik would have done basically the same. Those are some fairly low points, so going into next season through 4 runners this is what they look like (15+19+27+44= 111) And those are their scores from last year when facing off against the incredibly deep Henderson and O’Hara teams. They should breeze through the state title for a victory. They have 150 runners on their team to pick up a 5th man. Hunter Wharrey was unknown going into last year and he almost medaled at states. They’re going to find someone to break 17 at Hershey for a 5th man with their large program and great coaching staff. Don’t sleep on these guys at Regionals either.

3. Cardinal O’Hara (12) – I’m pretty excited about O’Hara team for next season. Kevin James has been a team leader for these guys for the past two years and his senior season he’s going to have these guys fired up and ready to roll. O’Hara returns 4 really strong runners: Kevin James (Sr-PA #3), Drew Pastore (Sr), Ryan James (So), Rob Morro (Jr). I’m a major believer in the sophomore to junior year jump, but Ernie Pastore (Drew’s older brother) made his big jump senior year when he placed 9th at states and beat out his stud teammates like Dan Savage and Kevin James at the state meet in an extraordinarily clutch performance. Drew Pastore has steady improved like his brother and we very well could seem some bombs dropped by the senior next year, and I wouldn’t be shocked to see him on the medal stand. Ryan James finished third out of all freshman last season at the state meet and don’t forget his brother placed 22nd at a sophomore. Every year there are ~ 2.53 sophomores who medal at the AAA state meet (statistics going back to 1997), so there must be one or two runners to step up, and James could very well be that young man. If so, O’Hara could challenge NA for the title. Rob Morro was a very promising freshman on the track, but he had a tough sophomore year. With extra training and experience under his belt, he’s also got a great chance to break out. They will need a 5th man, but O’Hara is an fantastically well run program, and I can’t imagine them having too much of an issue filling that hole.

4. Conestoga (1) – Any time a team returners 6 varsity runners and then has a ‘JV’ guy run 4:29.00 in the 1600 you know they’re going to be good. Conestoga is probably the only team on this list that I confidently know that they have a strong top 7! A top 7! Henderson was that way last year. They’ve got Andrew Marston (Sr-PA#6), James Cooper (Sr- PA#52), Pr Murray, Nick Cruickshank, Killian Nelson, Jack Iffert, and Nick Boccella. I’m pretty excited about this squad as a whole. They helped get Conestoga on the map. A group of juniors came together and made something really special happen last season, and now they’re back and ready to roll. The experience is there; they know Hershey’s course now; and they’re going to be hungry for more. Marston is a beast of a front man and I see Cooper and Murray as a great 2-3 punch. Behind them will be 4 runners battling for the 4-5 position, which makes for great practices and even better races. They’ll be able to pack up and work together. 

5. Council Rock North (1) – You might be thinking – Hey Forrest, I just check out Etrain’s list and he has CRN at #12! Why are they # 5 on your list? Clearly that CRN bias!” In this case, I really don’t think so at all and here is a list of reasons why: 1. CRN returns a solid top runner in Brian Arita (PA#39). Arita is determined to place top 25 and continually the CRN medaling streak. He’s a fantastic leader and will get this team pumped up and ready to roll. 2. They return 5 runners from their states varsity squad – Arita, Sean Griswold (Sr), Ben Heintz (Jr), Tim Haas (So), and Jesse Laitman (Sr). Haas was one of the top freshman at the state meet, and all 5 of these guys broke 16:50 at Districts. The sophomore to junior jump is most prevalent in CRN runners and I would love to go through a history lesson if you guys want to hear it. Basically what I’m trying to say is – Ben Heintz is going to be a monster next year. He’ll be breaking 16 at Districts with Sean Griswold, which gives CRN a similar top 3 to what they had last season except that Arita will be a bit further back than Wilson was as a front runner. Haas had an incredible freshman year and ran just two seconds slower than Wilson did as a freshman at Districts. Wilson placed 33rd at the state meet as a sophomore. Haas might not be that good, but I see him placing in the top 50 to 60. Laitman just needs to be a solid 5th man, but these guys have the fire power to really challenge Conestoga for a District title. 

6. West Chester Henderson (1) – This may be a mistake, but as of right now Henderson has quite a bit to prove to me. I do believe they’ve got the talent to move up on this list, and potentially even win districts however. Let’s run down this squad: Alex Knapp (PA#14), Gordy Barchet, Will Swart, Hugh Rainey, and Spencer Smucker. Alex Knapp has been around some fantastic runners for quite a while. I won’t go into too much depth about coming back as a runner being with awesome teammates who graduated, because Etrain has already done so with his West Chester Henderson Post. I totally agree with it, and I believe Knapp will be a great leader for this young squad, but here is what they will need to prove: Can Gordy Barchet stay healthy? He has had a slew of injury issues throughout his career, more so than his brother, but he did run 16:08 at a sophomore at Districts two years ago. If he can re-kindle that magic and make a 1-2 punch with Knapp the game changes dramatically, because both could very easily break 15:40 at Districts. Next they’ve got Will Swart who won JV Districts in 16:33 and ran a 4:34 1600 this past season, which is no joke. He has been overshadowed by his team the past two years, but I know he’s ready to get out of the gates for the Varsity team and will make another strong leader. Freshman Spencer Smucker has ran 4:42 for the 1600 in middle school and could very well medal at Districts as a freshman with the great coaching of Mr. Kelly. Hugh Rainey is another Varsity candidate who ran 4:45 for the 1600, and Henderson always has a large team, so I know they’ll find some other pieces and someone is bound to break out. If things can come together for this squad they could move up into the top 3 in the state. 

7. Freedom (11) – I’m a huge fan of this Freedom squad again this season, despite their disappointing 12th place finish at states last year. They have a great spread and they had a killer district race. They were young last year and it was many of their first time to the state meet. Now they have that experience and I believe in this pack. Probably to a fault, but here is who they return - Ben Ziegler (Sr), Jason Lopez (Sr), Will Alpaugh (Jr), Dan Quigley (Jr), and Shane Smith (Sr). Lopz, Aphaugh, and Quigley were running with Ziegler all last season, but finished 32-35 seconds behind him at the state meet. If they were up with him, their score would have been decreased by ~70 points. That would have put them ahead of Carlisle and Conestoga. Now, this is a bit hefty of a prediction, but I had them at 180 before the meet. The point I am trying to make is that this squad has the potential. They’ve got a really tight pack of 4 runners and not a terrible 5th man in Shane Smith. I’m excited to see how they hold up next year.

8. Pennsbury (1) – I am very hyped up about Pennsbury’s team. Once again the SOL league is stacked. Sam Webb (Sr- PA#8) is back in action after his injury and is ready to grab his first medal in the top 10 this season. He’s a great leader for this team and he peaks perfectly. He’s got a really strong number two runner in Alek Sauer (Sr- PA#44). Sauer will have his biggest race at Districts on the flat course, because he’s a true mid-distance guy. He broke 16 last year in a clutch race, and I think he can be mid 15:45’s next season. He struggled on the Hershey hills however. Behind them is a pack of 3 runners who were in the high 17 minutes at states in Dan Tokar (Sr-17:46), Dan Wick (18:01), and Thomas Wick (Jr). The Wick brothers are younger and have a lot of potential. If they can make a big jump into the low 17’s at the state meet, this team will be dangerous. They’ll be working to beat CRN all season that extra motivation will be there as well in practice.

9. Cumberland Valley – I had a lot of trouble placing CV going into next season. I have a feeling this young squad is going to break out and be rolling on all cylinders come October and November. Cumberland Valley has a history of strong runners and they’re a very young team. A strong top 4 lead by rising junior Owen Seeber, Yahya Soliman (So), Quinn Wasko (Sr), and Josh Higgins (So). They should have a solid spread 1-4, but they will need a 5th man to step up. Connor Patch is going to be a junior, but he ran 18:42 at states, and will need to be in the mid-17’s if they’re going to stand a chance next season. If Seeber, Soliman, and Higgins can break out, they’ll be set no questions asked. 

10. State College Area – I’m going to buy into Etrain’s top 3 theory a bit here and go with a team who has one of the best top 3’s in the state in State College. Cather, Adams, and Golembeski have left this squad in great hands. Alex Milligan (Jr) looked really great last season running mid 4:20’s and 1:57 in the open 800. He is going to be a total stud. Behind him we have Nick Feffer (So) who was brilliant for SC as just a freshman. He held up well under pressure with a time of 17:20 at states, which puts him 4th out of all freshman last season. Cather swears by this kid, and Cather is possibly the best and most realistic predictor I’ve ever seen (Ex. He called himself medaling and SC placing 4th during XC). Rounding out this studly group is Matt Beyerle(Sr- 1600m - 4:31) who had a rough state meet and ran 17:40, but I know he’s ready to bounce back and lead this team. They will need to pick up a few pieces, but runners such as Anthony Degleris (Jr – 2:02 800), Eric Heatwole (Top XC JV runner), and Owen Wing (So) should be able to step in and begin to fill the holes.

Sleeper Picks
Downingtown West – Maybe these guys should be #10 on the list. It’s really close. Last season they placed 8th at Districts with a 26 second spread and an Ang. Time of 16:33. 16:16 was the slowest Avg. Time to make states last year and I’m guessing about the same time will be needed if conditions are similar to last year. With all 5 of their top guys returning and their team being led by two sophomores you’ve got to be excited about what they bring to the table. Do I think the comparisions to Henderson are ridiculous? Yes. Henderson is an established Dynasty, while Downingtown West hasn’t made the state meet in years (if ever?). I’m big on Henry Sappey leading this team as the top guy next year. He’s going to be a junior and just ran 4:31 for 1600m. I think he’s going to break out strongly and help these guys quite a bit. He was the top runner at the beginning of the season, but he faded by the end. I’m not sure if he was injured or sick, but if he can keep the tempo strong all season long he’s going to be at the head of a strong underclassman trio with sophomore studs Drew Alansky (9:54/16:19) and Ryan Barton (9:57/16:24). They also have two solid seniors who’s leadership will be greatly needed” Will Pelcin (16:33) and Charlie Barton (16:42). Jason White will also be in the mix as the tightly packed 6th man (16:50). 

Scranton Prep – They return their entire varsity team and they placed pretty well at states last year with a 1-5 spread from 17:00-18:18 (top 4 under 17:50). They’re going to be in the shadows most of the year as most District 2 teams are, especially AA, but when you’ve got a group of 6 seniors you know they have a very one track mind. It’s all of their last XC season and they’ll want to go out with a bang. Kyle Perry is a great leader of the group and he added a 4:30 to his resume this past outdoor season, while teammate Ryan Burke followed right behind with a 4:31. They will be joined by Ben Evans, Anthoney Nardone, and Owen Brier.  

Mount Lebanon – They’re always a really solid team from the WPIALs and have a great chance of putting something together. They will make states, which makes them dangerous and I love their front two guys, Ian Braun (Sr) and Todd Gunzenhauser (Jr). Todd’s brother, Radford, was a beast and I think this season he’ll really be a breakout star. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him on the medal stand at the state meet. Braun is super consistent and to round out the big 3 is Matthew Stone who was soli all 2013. They will need to fill some gaps at the 4-5 position if they want to make a top 10 finish once again in AAA.

Central Bucks West – Everyone is super hyped up on DTW. They’re a really strong young looking squad, and I’m just as stoked to see how they perform, but CBW is totally being ignored, so I’m going to hype this squad up a bit. They’ve got a great coaching duo and here is their line up going into next season with some statistics- Rock Brian Iatarola (Jr – 10:02, 16:35), Rock Fortna (Jr – 16:51, 4:24), Declan McDonald (Jr - 10:14, 16:58, Brian Mass (So – 4:44, 9:56, 17:09), Ben Smullen (So – 4:51, 9:58, 17:11), Ian Davies (Sr - 10:05, 17:00), Beckett Wilson (Sr – 17:19). Do I think they’ll make it to the state meet? Probably not, but they’re young and worth talking about with 5 really strong non-seniors.

Twin Valley - They've got a new returning core 5 runners and every year seems like it's going to be their breakout season, but it never really happens... will this be the year?

--ForrestCRN

LETS GO USA! I believe that we will win!

53 comments:

  1. DWest made states in 2012 when Leidel and Steadman were around. That was the year 4 Chesmont teams qualified (Henderson, Great Valley, West Chester East, DWest)

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  2. Alert: Seniors really did graduate. OH and WCH are both overrated. N/A is the favorite and Dwest is no sleeper, they're the real deal.

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  3. Hugh Rainey from WCH was class of 2014.

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  4. Henderson will be much weaker, no doubt, but they will still be a top 10 team in the State. G. Barchet has always been hurt, but if he's healthy they have a nasty 1-2 punch in him and Knapp and a solid number 3 in Swart. I have heard about a great 8th grader coming into the program and I'm sure their abundance of freshman will work very hard this summer to get that 5-7th spot. I see a bright future for this team still, especially with Coach K running the show.

    D. West is hard. I'd love to say they'll be a top 3 team but they didn't make States last year and experience is everything, especially when it comes to Hershey. I think they'll make States this year, but then place around 7th and then next year come back to win districts and potentially States. They have a great young cast, but they're still young. They aren't ready for State Gold yet.

    O'Hara has a solid top 3 and definitely pieces to get a top 5 together. Keep an eye on Ryan James as he lives in the household of a potential State champion. I can't imagine K. James not pushing his little brother to continue the James legacy at that school. I have faith in that team and great coaching helps as well.

    MP will be sick and I can't wait to see what kind of yeah Josh Hoey has. They also have another brother who ran at the 2 mile during XC season. 13:11 I think? He's only in 6th grade as well so he will definitely continue the legacy.

    -RTJ

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  5. What about La Salle? Brendan Bilotta is the only graduating senior. 8 runners that have broken 18:00 at Belmont, 14 runners under 18:30, and 19 runners under 19:00 there. They also ran an 8:05 4x800 without Bilotta. Given that Belmont is about 40 seconds slower then Lehigh, that's 14 runners already under 17:50 coming back.

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    1. 14 is great but only 5 score so the need a group under 17:00. But they do have a lot of potential.

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  6. Dwest will handle WCH easily this year. They're stacked 1 - 10. WCH has a couple of guys but not enough depth like they've been used to the past 5 years.

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    1. -Dwest runner

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    2. Dwest's biggest problem is the fact that their coach has no idea to do with those freshmen he has. he has no experience with training good athletes whatsoever. and if anyone is about to say Quinn Devlin, His dad handled all of that training. Dwest is cursed to mediocrity for the rest of their existence.

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    3. ^ Uh, their coach did a nice job with Leidal and also got them to XC states in 2012. Whoever trained Devlin with hindsight would probably do things differently since he lost his senior season to injury, word was from doing ridiculous mileage

      They should be very good this year, they may not yet develop any front runners on that young team but they have a lot of talent and depth. They will probably make states.

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    4. One of the worst things that can happen to a team is kids getting trained by parents or a hired personal trainer. That immediately discredits the coach and the team concept, pretty much ruining the team chemistry. Maybe some extra training on the weekend would be ok but some of these prima donnas are out of hand. There’s been kids who dog the coaches workouts, fake injury and even blatantly skip practice or meets because their parent or personal trainer has a different agenda. Coaches should just throw those kids off the team, no matter how good they are or think they are, they only hurt the team.

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    5. Does D-West share coaches? If so then D-West has put fourth Devlin, Barnhill, Leidal, and Steadman. D-West's coaching staff had a solid amount of runners that they trained. Mr. Devlin did have a lot to do with Quinn's training, but if I remember correctly it was sort of in the way that Mrs. Gerlach had to do with Tori's training. By this I mean the coaches trained them and told them what to do, but if they felt that it wasn't enough or a workout didn't push them hard enough, they would tell them to do a little more or add on something at the end. This along with competitive nature, Quinn has gone on very, very long runs (17 miles I believe) the day after a bad race, due to his competitive nature and it makes sense, he was one of the best runners in the State (possible the region) so naturally after a bad race he wanted to make up for it. Anyway, D-West coaches know what they're doing and will train their runners accordingly.

      -RTJ

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    6. Yeah d west is coached great. I remember devlin ran a 2:06 800 in a dual meet and claimed that his 20 mile long run at sub 7 pace earlier that week prevented a better time. He was probably just training through though. Devlin will forever be the greatest to never medal at a state meet

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    7. Personal trainers are a joke but unfortunately some parents think their kid is extra talented, special and above the team. Imagine a quarterback telling his coach "I'm not doing throwing drills today, my trainer said I should work on handoffs". He'd be lucky to only be benched.

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    8. It all depends on the expertise of the coach. At larger schools coaches are usually competent. However I have seen coaches at small schools trying to coach a sport that they have only read about in books. Not all coaches are equal.

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    9. ^ That's a cop out, every overbearing parent says the same that. But if they don't like the coach or think they're not doing a good job for Jr they should go to the athletic director. If not satified, take your exceptional kid off the team get him a trainer and let him run open meets rather than poison the team. BTW, nothing wrong with doing research in books, most top coaches read the trainging books and running magizines.

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    10. I'm not saying that there are not some over wrought parents. I'm just saying that you should not immediately assume that every high school coach is competent. Just because some AD at some high school hires a warm body as a coach does not mean that person is a good or competent coach.

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    11. Many talented runners will not have the benefit of the quality of coaching at Henderson, O'Hara or other top programs. Why is it wrong to want access to the type of advice or information that may not be available at their high school? Are these runners any less entitled to getting support to help them maximize their ability? It is absolutely possible to support the coach and team and have the benefit of an additional outside point of view as well. And talking to the AD is often a waste of breath. Many don't care about the running program.

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    12. This happened at my school and it was a disaster. Coaching by committee never works, there can only be one head coach. Didn't anyone see Hoosiers? If the coach permits personal trainers to offer supplemental or conflicting training then so be it. But to do so on their own without informing the coach, is sneaky and underhanded but typical of many parents and kids who think they're the next big thing. And backing off a coaches practice in favor of an outsider is flat out insubordinant.

      Almost always the end result is division on the team, a headache for the coach and/or AD, a very upset parent, a trainer who walked away with some extra cash and a kid who never really became what they all thought he would.

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    13. Private coaches are not all good or all bad. It depends on the situation. For me, after two years of constantly being injured by my school's coaches (never had a coach for more than one season), I made the switch, while still injured, to a private coach. I go to a small school where, now that last year's class in gone, the next fastest guy can't break 20 on belmont, and so team dynamics is not a problem. I recently ran 4:20 for 1600 and 8:47 for 3k off of one track season of training. It depends on your situation.

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    14. ^ I get that, but also see a lot of parents who maybe ran well themselves 25 years ago, inserting themselves into a training regimen or team dynamic that causes a lot of bad feelings. And it's usually all about the parents ego and too often hurts the kid, their running and their relationship with the team and coaches. Btw, what ever happened to Quinn Devlin? Since he doesn't run for Columbia, I assume he either burned out or was put on a permanent injured reserve status.

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    1. They'll definitely be pretty good this year but not great. I see them fighting with Avon grove and Rustin for third at chesmonts

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    2. Avon Grove and Rustin?

      1) Dwest, 2) WCH, 3) Coatesville, 4) WCE, 5) Deast, 6) Avon Grove, 7) Great Valley, 8) Unionville, 9) Rustin, 10) Kennett

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    3. -Dwest runner

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    4. Wow, the Chesmont league has evolved a lot in the last couple of years. The only consistently good team seams to be Henderson.
      Mark my words, as much as I hate how they always win, Henderson will win Chesmonts like they always do. And if I'm wrong? Well it doesn't matter because this is anonomous

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    5. Henderson hopes are on an oft injured guy, a few sophs who may or may not develop and an incoming freshman. Dwest is loaded, sorry but the Henderson Chesmont streak ends at 6.

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    6. Who is the oft- injured guy you refer to?

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    7. Dwest is the team to look out for this year. They should handle WCH from the Oakbourne Relays through dual meets Chesmonts and Districts. They're probably already at 50 miles a week.

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    8. I believe West will beat them early on at the duel meet and maybe Chesmonts (that one will be close). But I believe Henderson will peak at the right time and beat West at Districts

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    9. ^ This. So many teams go hard early and peak even before districts. I'm sure DWest will handle WCH early on. But WCH has always taken a mature approach and hit it big when it counts.

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    10. It's all about numbers and Dwest has the depth to take of WCH in August and October even if someone peaks early.

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    11. It's not about one runner peaking early. It's about an entire team peaking at the exact right time, which WCH almost always does

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  8. Milesplit just came out with a top 100 boys xc ranking and if anyone has a memebership could they copy and paste that list to the blog or maybe forrest you could do a post on it

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  9. 1 Christian Brothers Academy (NJ) 133
    2 Lafayette (Wildwood) High School (MO) 509
    3 Madera South (CS) (CA) 619
    4 Summit (OR) 675
    5 Fayetteville-Manlius (FM) (NY) 679
    6 Central Catholic (OR) 708
    7 Liverpool (NY) 728
    8 Hilliard Davidson (OH) 765
    9 Wayzata High School (MN) 787
    10 St. Xavier (Lou) (KY) 813
    11 La Salle Academy (RI) 833
    12 West Plains High School (MO) 845
    13 Woodward Academy (GA) 863
    14 Don Bosco Prep (NJ) 872
    15 North Allegheny (PA) 881
    16 Dublin Coffman (OH) 944
    17 South View (NC) 987
    18 Rogers High School (AR) 1009
    19 Stillwater Area High School (MN) 1029
    20 North Central High School (WA) 1080
    21 Cambridge Rindge and Latin High School (MA) 1099
    22 Bellarmine College Prep (CC) (CA) 1109
    23 Broughton (NC) 1112
    24 Clovis North High School (CS) (CA) 1130
    25 Davis Senior High School (SJ) (CA) 1147
    26 Peachtree Ridge High School (GA) 1163
    27 New Albany (OH) 1181
    28 Weddington High School (NC) 1189
    29 Marietta High School (GA) 1198
    30 El Paso Eastwood (TX) 1206
    31 Waterford Mott (MI) 1255
    32 Bloomington North High School (IN) 1266
    33 Rubidoux High (SS) (CA) 1282
    34 South Forsyth High School (GA) 1312
    35 West Lafayette High School (IN) 1323
    36 Carmel High School (IN) 1328
    37 Linn-Mar High School (IA) 1334
    38 Great Oak High School (SS) (CA) 1340
    39 Hilton Head (SC) 1353
    40 North Hall (GA) 1368
    41 Southlake Carroll (TX) 1399
    42 Lake Braddock (VA) 1401
    43 Pleasant Valley High School (IA) 1402
    44 St. Louis University High School (MO) 1413
    45 Bishop Hendricken High School (RI) 1425
    46 CAPITAL SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL (ID) 1441
    47 Eisenhower Senior High School (WA) 1468
    48 Mansfield High School (MA) 1475
    49 Cardinal Gibbons (NC) 1480
    50 Davis High School (UT) 1498
    51 Bloomington South High School (IN) 1506
    52 Marcus (TX) 1516
    53 Chiles HS (FL) 1539
    54 Casa Grande High School (NC) (CA) 1595
    55 Zionsville Community High School (IN) 1614
    56 Skyview High School (WA) 1616
    57 Saugus High School (SS) (CA) 1619
    58 Jesuit (SJ) (CA) 1630
    59 Saint Anthony's (NY) 1634
    60 Ridgefield High School (CT) 1646
    61 Stevens Point (WI) 1648
    62 Thomas Worthington (OH) 1653
    63 Conestoga (PA) 1654
    64 Trinity (Louisville) (KY) 1657
    65 Leon HS (FL) 1671
    66 Downingtown West (PA) 1692
    67 Belen Jesuit Preparatory School (FL) 1718
    68 Blessed Trinity (GA) 1725
    69 Columbus North High School (IN) 1762
    70 Madison West (WI) 1764
    71 Madison La Follette (WI) 1766
    72 Hilliard Darby (OH) 1786
    73 Albuquerque Academy (NM) 1790
    74 Maria Carrillo High (NC) (CA) 1826
    75 Fishers High School (IN) 1827
    76 Walt Whitman High School (MD) 1832
    77 Auburn (AL) 1840
    78 Highland Reg HS (NJ) 1846
    79 The Woodlands (TX) 1853
    80 Cedar Falls High School (IA) 1886
    81 Wisconsin Lutheran High School (WI) 1899
    82 Toms River North HS (NJ) 1909
    83 Wando (SC) 1916
    84 Clovis High School (CS) (CA) 1922
    85 Chapel Hill (NC) 1935
    86 Fort Wayne Carroll High School (IN) 1935
    87 Tesoro High (SS) (CA) 1943
    88 Sehome High School (WA) 1944
    89 Robbinsville HS (NJ) 1944
    90 West Valley Senior High School (WA) 1945
    91 Maggie Walker (VA) 1967
    92 Highland Park (TX) 1967
    93 Blue Valley High School (KS) 1975
    94 Centennial H.S. (MN) 2005
    95 Mountain View (OR) 2013
    96 Warwick Valley (NY) 2036
    97 Dulaney High School (MD) 2060
    98 Rockford (MI) 2076
    99 Santa Rosa High (CA) 2083
    100 South Brunswick HS (NJ) 2086

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  10. 15 North Allegheny (PA) 881
    1) Matt Mcgoey 15:45.0 61
    2) Seamus Love 15:57.0 132
    3) Scott Seel 15:58.0 137
    4) Hunter Wharrey 16:05.0 188
    5) Peter Savchik 16:27.0 363

    63 Conestoga (PA) 1654
    1) Andrew Marston 15:50.0 90
    2) James Cooper 16:13.0 235
    3) Nick Cruickshank 16:21.0 304
    4) Killian Nelson 16:34.7 439
    5) Jack Iffert 16:47.0 586

    66 Downingtown West (PA) 1692
    1) Henry Sappey 16:14.0 245
    2) Drew Alansky 16:19.0 288
    3) Ryan Barton 16:24.0 326
    4) Jason White 16:32.0 411
    5) Will Pelcin 16:33.0 422

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    1. Everyone is doubting Dwest on these blogs, but the experts know they're real good.

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    2. yeah but they have to face Conestoga eventually who is right ahead of them according to your experts

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  11. These guys on milesplit are no experts. Malvern or O'hara aren't included in this top 100 list and malvern is probably the second best team in the northeast.

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    1. That's because all they did is rank everyone returning based on their 5K pr from the database, and then score it like a meet. It's useless, all different courses with pr's from fast or questionable 5K courses like the Red, White, Blue Classic where all N/A pr's are from or Bulldog for Dwest. And according to Forrest, Seamus Love moved and isn't even on N Allegheny anymore yet milesplit has him as their #2.

      Forrest and Etrains predictions included analysis, research and thought, they're way more accurate.

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    2. You, sir, know what you're talking about. I can't tell if that Dwest guy talking about the experts is trolling or not, but whatever.

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  12. D-west's coach is a D-bag

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    1. Alright hold up. I'm one of the very few that believes DWest is overrated. But Coach Burns, in all my times talking to him, is a great guy. Clearly you've never met him.

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    2. if he were an airline, he'd be Malaysian Airlines

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  13. The bottom line is we won't know what either team looks like untill september. Right now you got to say d west is ahead of henderson just because henderson is counting on so many guys who have not proven themselves yet in xc. D west has some experience and we all have an idea of what they bring to the table

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  14. Red Land High School I think does not get the credit they deserve at least a sleeper pick for the PA teams. Last year no one bothered to give them a look till they finished 4th at Carlisle behind 3 nationally ranked teams, unfortunately for them the lost their number 1 Aaron Lauer for their post season and dropped off everyone's map again. With all their runners returning lead by Seiger who can contend for a district title and at top 5 state finish and has been pointed out before Wilkinson is the real deal too. As a local Mid-Penn coach I see Red Land picking off a lot of these teams from the shadows and walking away with some unexpected trophies and medals.

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    1. Wow, they have been overlooked. Looks like 5 strong runners but then a bit of a drop off. If they can get some depth they won't be underestimated for long.

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    2. very true, they are definitely on my list of teams to watch now, Seiger is an impressive runner, I could see him do great things and lead that team to big stuff

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    3. Anyone that wants too look back on the Carlisle results will see they clearly deserve more credit, in that race they beat CV, State College, and D-West, and they are only losing one runner, they have definitely been missed, just because they didn't perform well at districts or race at states doesn't mean they can't compete

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    4. Dwest wasn't peaking for Carlisle, that's the only reason they beat them.

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    5. I don't think anybody was peaking for Carlisle, that would be a silly strategy.

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    6. Obviously no one wants to peak at Carlisle, they lost there number one runner to an injury I doubt that was the plan

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