1. Tony Russell - Yet to Race
2. Brent Kennedy – Solid opening
race of 15:25 for 2nd place @ RW@B
3. Ethan Martin – Solid opening race of 15:35 for 3rd place @ RW&B.
4. Ross Wilson – Win over a couple solid runners @ Viking time of 15:40
5. Reiny Barchet – Yet to Race
6. Kevin James – Really great season opener with huge PR of 15:12 @Bulldog.
7. Colin Martin(9 to 7) – Big win over Kennedy and his brother, but I don’t want to move him too much just yet.
8. Dominic Deluca – Big win at PTXC where he looked very smooth in 15:43. Can’t wait to see him at Foundation. Also won the Cliff Robins Invitational.
9. Sam Webb (7 to 9) – Yet to race
10. Zach Brehm – Really great opening win @ Spiked Shoe. Big test comes in 2 weeks.
11. Colin Abert – 4th @ PTXC
12. Chris Cummings – Win in 15:30 @ Abington and 2nd place @ Bulldog in 15:30.
13. Jeremy Parsons – Won his first Invitational of the season quite easily.
14. Sam Ritz – Yet to Race.
15. Matt McGoey – 4th @ RW&B in 15:45 and 8th @ Boardman.
16. Aaron Gebhart - Yet to Race
17. Griffin Molino – 2nd @ Spiked Shoe
18. Cole Nissley – 6th @ PTXC
3. Ethan Martin – Solid opening race of 15:35 for 3rd place @ RW&B.
4. Ross Wilson – Win over a couple solid runners @ Viking time of 15:40
5. Reiny Barchet – Yet to Race
6. Kevin James – Really great season opener with huge PR of 15:12 @Bulldog.
7. Colin Martin(9 to 7) – Big win over Kennedy and his brother, but I don’t want to move him too much just yet.
8. Dominic Deluca – Big win at PTXC where he looked very smooth in 15:43. Can’t wait to see him at Foundation. Also won the Cliff Robins Invitational.
9. Sam Webb (7 to 9) – Yet to race
10. Zach Brehm – Really great opening win @ Spiked Shoe. Big test comes in 2 weeks.
11. Colin Abert – 4th @ PTXC
12. Chris Cummings – Win in 15:30 @ Abington and 2nd place @ Bulldog in 15:30.
13. Jeremy Parsons – Won his first Invitational of the season quite easily.
14. Sam Ritz – Yet to Race.
15. Matt McGoey – 4th @ RW&B in 15:45 and 8th @ Boardman.
16. Aaron Gebhart - Yet to Race
17. Griffin Molino – 2nd @ Spiked Shoe
18. Cole Nissley – 6th @ PTXC
19. Jeff Groh – He ran really
well beating Abert and Nissley @ PTXC, but needs to prove he ran run steady
before he jumps further up this list.
20. Jake Brophy – 3rd
@ Viking in 15:48 and 3rd @ Bulldog in 15:38.
21. Christian Kardish – Opened his season, but results have not been posted. Keeping him here as Yet to Race.
21. Jim Belfatto – 4th @ Bulldog in 15:48
21. Christian Kardish – Opened his season, but results have not been posted. Keeping him here as Yet to Race.
21. Jim Belfatto – 4th @ Bulldog in 15:48
22. Aiden Demko - Team Opened @ PTXC, but he did not race. Will wait to see if he is injured.
23. Eric Stratman – Yet to Race
24. Chris Kazanjian –He’s put together two really nice races so far this season, but no movement upwards yet. 2nd @ Viking and 2nd @ Abington in 15:41.
23. Eric Stratman – Yet to Race
24. Chris Kazanjian –He’s put together two really nice races so far this season, but no movement upwards yet. 2nd @ Viking and 2nd @ Abington in 15:41.
25. Patrick Reilly – Yet to Race
26. William Cather (From 34 to 27) – Was with Brehm at 2 Miles but got something caught in his shoe. He’s looked great so far this season, look for him to continue up this list. 2nd @ Big Valley Invitational
26. William Cather (From 34 to 27) – Was with Brehm at 2 Miles but got something caught in his shoe. He’s looked great so far this season, look for him to continue up this list. 2nd @ Big Valley Invitational
27. Cordon Louco – I like what I saw at RW&B with a 5th
place showing. Didn’t race @ Boardman.
28. Seamus Collins – Yet to Race
28. Seamus Collins – Yet to Race
29. Matt Kazanjian – 4th @ Viking and 3rd
@ Abington in 15:42
30. Jack Tidball – 3rd @ Spiked Shoe
31. Aaron Lauer – 8th @ PTXC
32. Dominic Hockenbury – 2nd @ Cliff Robins in 16:57
33. Eric Diestelow – 6th @ Abington, fell and took 10th @ Bulldog.
34. Josh Smith – Recent transfer into PA. Took 5th @ Abington and 5th @ Bulldog.
35. Matt Willig – Previously 19th (Been sick so he stays on the list for now) – 20th @ Abington
36. William Kachman – Big win over Cather @ Big Valley Invitational in 16:17.
37. Seamus Love – 6th @ RW&B in 15:57, 15th @ Boardman
32. Dominic Hockenbury – 2nd @ Cliff Robins in 16:57
33. Eric Diestelow – 6th @ Abington, fell and took 10th @ Bulldog.
34. Josh Smith – Recent transfer into PA. Took 5th @ Abington and 5th @ Bulldog.
35. Matt Willig – Previously 19th (Been sick so he stays on the list for now) – 20th @ Abington
36. William Kachman – Big win over Cather @ Big Valley Invitational in 16:17.
37. Seamus Love – 6th @ RW&B in 15:57, 15th @ Boardman
38. Scott Seel – 7th @ RW&B in 15:58, 16th
@ Boardman
39. Rob Morro – 6th @ Bulldog
40. Brady Wilt – 7th @ Spiked Shoe
41. Alex Knapp – Yet to Race
42. Brandon Bilotta – 2nd to Kevin James in first meet.
43. Billy Caldwell – Win @ Twin Valley Invitational, 8th @ Bulldog
44. Hunter Wharrey – 8th @ RW&B in 16:05
45. Anton Martinez – 9th @ RW&B in 16:07
40. Brady Wilt – 7th @ Spiked Shoe
41. Alex Knapp – Yet to Race
42. Brandon Bilotta – 2nd to Kevin James in first meet.
43. Billy Caldwell – Win @ Twin Valley Invitational, 8th @ Bulldog
44. Hunter Wharrey – 8th @ RW&B in 16:05
45. Anton Martinez – 9th @ RW&B in 16:07
46. Brian Delany- 10th @ PTXC in 16:30
47. Ryan Grace- Ran really nice legs to help his team win @ Quad XC
48. Scott Mason - Winner of Small School Bulldog race in 15:59
49. Connor Holm - 2nd to Mason @ Bulldog in 16:01
50. Aaron Benka - 13th @ RW@B
I kept people who haven't raced in basically their same positions. I will be updating this list every week from here on out. These next two weekends will be big for many of these guys who have more opportunities to prove themselves. And I will wait until next weekend to update the team list.
--That's all for now Folks!
--ForrestCRN
Reilly hasn't raced in an invitational but he did run 15:45 at a dual meet last week.
ReplyDeleteFor some perspective on Reilly, he beat Aaron Gebhart (16:02) in that race and ran a 15:57 the week before on a course where Chuck Lockwood ran a 15:47 in 2009.
DeleteEveryone has run in dual meets so far. They are not a factor.
ReplyDeleteAll he is saying is that Reilly has run 15:45. Shows that he is in good shape. Of course we don't know the quality of the course, so it is difficult to judge.
DeleteWith no other information than it was a dual meet, it proves nothing.
DeleteThese are the types of posts I'm talking about guys. When I see Reilly ran 15:45 in a dual meet I'm thinking: "Fantastic! Reilly is racing (meaning he's health) and he's got to be in good shape to run 15:45 even if the course is easy. This is good news". You guys decide to rip on people who post this type of positive information. Please refrain from doing so.
DeleteThank you poster above for the comment about Reilly, I greatly appreciate it!
--ForrestCRN
Did I miss something? The post that defended your process of ignoring dual meets for ranking purposes didn't come across as a rip of anyone.
DeleteForrest,is this an open forum or are you going to snark on and censor anyone who has a legitimate point? Posting a "top 50" ranking(pre-mature IMHO)is controversial and naturally will encourage debate. Disagreement is what makes for a lively blog.
Woah, I didn't censor those comments at all. Or else they would have been deleted. And I can't really do much with dual meets since I rarely see results for them other than local papers which I try and read every Wednesday.
DeleteI jumped the gun a bit with commenting, I try not to comment too much on the blog now that I run it, but the last few posts on previous threads ripping other posters without making legitimate points did bother me.
I'm not sure what "(pre-mature IMHO)" means, but I decided to post a new top 50 since 3 weeks have gone by and even though many people are still just opening up their season a lot has happened and I wanted to keep some things in perspective by posting a new one now. I greatly encourage debates and discussion, which is why I said "Debate Away" after my last top 10 team's ranking. I love seeing what everyone has to say and why they disagree with me, such as why the person below who brings up concerns and why be believes the ranking is incorrect. That is what makes me want to keep doing the blog. Not obnoxious comments where people sarcastically bring down other runners. I will not censor this blog. I'm extremely libertarian and was a debater in high school, I am always open to friendly comments and debates. There is a line though.
--ForrestCRN
I will try and keep my posts to a bare-minimum from now on.
I think the Kazanjian brothers are a little low, and McGoey is a little high. Abington is a harder course than RW&B.
ReplyDeleteI would also move James up to No. 2. I realize you don't want to move a guy big after just one race, but what a race!
I know it was one race, but Colin Martin ran a PR, along with Ethan and Brent (XC 5k PR) and he beat Ethan by 17 seconds and Brent by 7 seconds. At this point, it's hard to keep him back there if they're going to be placed so high.
ReplyDeleteThis week is briarwood right? Henderson vs O'Hara?
-RTJ
Henderson isn't going to Briarwood. They are only signed up for Carlisle and Manhattan at this point for big invites.
DeleteRumor floating around Bulldog was O'Hara varsity was going to Foundation and JV only to Briarwood.
DeleteJames vs wilson this weekend
DeleteThere won't be any 15:12's at Foundation.
DeleteForrest,
ReplyDeleteKeep your comments coming. Don't let people get under your skin. You're doing a great job.
That being said, I'm tired of the excuses. So and so is sick, this guy tripped. Man up. If you're well enough to toe the line, race and don't make excuses after the fact. If you can't stay on your feet, shame on you. Also, everyone who is going to be a contender is training hard. If you're resting for meets in September, you won't be a factor in November.
*(Roars of applause)*
DeleteIf a races results look screwy for a particular runner, then I appreciate an explanation of what went wrong or an excuse as some would say. But when excuses are made for kids who had really solid runs, it reads as arrogant.
DeleteYou have a good thing going, Forrest. Keep up good work.
Forrest, I think the same thing happened to etrain last September, there was some over the top trash talk that he deleted and you're right, anything trashing another runner should be deleted. But as the season developed to the bigger invitationals and then championships it settled down and there were more good discussions/info in the comments.
DeleteKeep up the great work!
- RJJL
I have respect for runners that can go all season and run in only two invitationals. I'd hate all that training and not racing to see where I stand.
ReplyDeleteBack on topic, Bulldog has historically been a shortened course, but nonetheless James' time is impressive. It's also not that much shorter. DTW's top 5... where did they come from? The junior is the only one that ran at Abington... where did all of those freshman come from? They had to be good enough to run JV at Abington, it's like they appeared out of no where.
-RTJ
Agreed, it has to be tough just running workouts and dual meets in September. Unless you're on a team like Henderson, where you're planning on running states, NE's and nationals and peaking in November. Then September isn't that important and besides, good training will let you know where you stand.
DeleteIf Bulldog is short, which it appears to be, it shouldn't claim to be a 5K.
A lot of talent on that DTW squad. Not sure how far they will get this year without a Big Stick at the front. They need some guys down around 16 come Districts. However, I can see them giving Henderson a run in a couple of years.
DeleteRTJ- The four freshman ran varsity at Bulldog because DTW was resting their top 4 guys
DeleteI think Bulldog has been listed on Milesplit as a three mile in the past
ReplyDeleteApparently, Rose Tree has changed the last few years so maybe it was a 5k or extremely close to one. Usually when it's not a 5k it's listed and someone said a coach measured it and it was a 5k then it could be legit. Bulldog is easier than the rough Delco course and there's really only one hard uphill so maybe the times are legit. It's not like a nobody ran that time, it was Kevin James. Other runners have run fast times as well so I think it will be legit.
ReplyDelete-RTJ
It's not just James, the times across the board hint at shorter than 5K.
DeleteTrue, but Cummings ran 15:31 at Abington and then less than a second better there. I feel like if it was under 5k he would have ran sub 15:20 like Kevin James did. I think the Marcellis bros ran even slower than they did at Abington which only has one or two rough hills. I can see what people mean by some of the people that came out of no where (four frosh from DTW) but everyone else seemed to be exactly where they were from Abington.
Delete-RTJ
I would move albert inside top 10 and move brehm slightly outside top 10. Would like to see 1 more race from brehm before mocinf him within top 10. I would move kazajian inside top 20 and move kardish further back. Balla should probably make top 50. Overall, i think the list is on the spot. Keep up the great work.
ReplyDeleteStarting lane assignments are out for Foundation (confirming COH is running Briarwood). Will you be doing are preview of Briarwood and Foundation this week?
ReplyDeleteI prdict a top 7 finish in district 1 for Rustin out of the chesmont division. they will have 7 guys under 17:00! thoughts?
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